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Posted in Investing by herry winandi on November 1, 2008

this is another side of electrical student.. well, no many of us being attracted with financial market.. no wonder why, as our major is electrical.. here is my story of being a trader, focusly in foreign exchange, commodities, and futures.. i’ve been doing this since our first year in itb.. lately we focus our discuss on forex.. please note we are not discuss any legitimate issue (halal-haram), you better search by yourself..

forex stand for foreign exchange a.k.a valuta asing a.k.a jual beli mata uang.. the same as stocks (saham) unless the object we trade is currency.. say we bought US$ today for Rp 9.000, then next week $ strengthen to Rp 12.000, means we gain profit Rp 3.000 for each $ we bought.. that’s it..

mostly lay people consider financial market as limited as stocks and forex.. besides, the financial markets can be divided into different types, as example:

  • capital market (stock *saham* and bond *surat berharga*)
  • commodity market (gold, oil)
  • foreign exchange market (currency)
  • derrivatives market (options, futures *frequently seen on newspaper ads*)
  • etc.

forex is related to scam ? ya that’s true, you invest your money here, you will lose it, either by your stupid decision buying wrong currency while it’s value is going weaker, or you are being fooled by such investment program which offer you high return if you invest there.. in fact, only 5-10 % of trader could gain money, others are loser.. most of them lose their money in this bussiness, thats why forex is related to scam..

ok, i realize the risk and i want to invest there, then how do we got access to realtime prices and trade them ?

the first thing you should find is a trustable broker, broker give you access to the market, you will able to trade financial market with them.. there are many of them, both local and international.. i personally prefer the international one, because local regulation regulated by bappebti (badan pengawas perdagangan berjangka komoditi) and others is not tight enough.. those weak regulation give bigger opportunity for local broker to fool investor, they easily stole our money.. well, no one in this world guarantee our money even i put my money on tighter regulated country such as europe or US, at least i feel more secure.. do you know that every investment we did have a risk ?, even putting our money in the bank ? FYI, our government guarantee our money as much as Rp 100 million, say you have Rp 1 billion on your bank account, then your bank is collapse/bankrupt, it means you will lose Rp 900 million.. don’t worry, just few days ago our government has increase the guarantee to Rp 2 billion, unless you have more than 2 billion, you should worry then LOL..

back to the broker, many criteria we should consider to find the good one.. the point is, find one you trust with..

example for the local, even you can find some of them on dago street :

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example for international :

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after finding your broker, you should gain your trading experience with them.. don’t worry, you no need to invest your real money in rush.. most broker offer us demo account which give you real environment, realtime market prices, and virtual money instead of your real money..

ok good,  you are able to trade now, with your dummy money of course.. then how to analyse the currency/stock/etc. movement ? how do we predict that $$ will go higher ? where the oil price is heading ? stocks will up or down ?

there are two types of analysis :

  • fundamental analysis ( we are considering economic, politic, important policy issues.. yes, you have to be update: read newspaper, watch bloomberg-tv, read any news.. I recommend http://www.bloomberg.com to find the news)

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  • technical analysis ( read the chart, you can predict the price movement easily here, there are soooooo much technics to read the chart, many ways to interpret the chart, for beginner I recommend http://www.babypips.com/school/ )

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done, you have all. you are able to trade now =)

here is the example of my real trade with real money i invest:

this is Great Britain Poundsterling vs Japanesse Yen chart.. now price is @ point C, and i predict price will fall to point TP1 & TP2.. the fallin price means poundsterling weaken and yen strengthen.. a week after, price is fallin as predicted =)

it shows us how i predict the currency movement by technical analysis, you may see those freakin lines, sure those means something haha..

there are many things you should learn distinct written here, such as risk managment (how you manage your risk), money management (how much you put your money into trade), many more..

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now:

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a week after:

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Herry Winandi

Power Engineering – 2005

Bandung Institute of Technology

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  1. hamid said, on November 1, 2008 at 1:55 am

    wew!!
    nice topic
    nice technical analysis
    but u don’t mention how to use fundamental analysis
    tell us more

  2. herrywinandi said, on November 1, 2008 at 2:00 am

    @ hamid
    we will go further later =)

  3. wahidyankf said, on November 1, 2008 at 6:40 am

    wuoo….hercup…such a nice article from you…i’m waiting for your next article… ^_^

  4. dhzcorner said, on November 1, 2008 at 9:35 am

    wow forex..

    big profit, but very high risk..

    waiting for the next article..

  5. Fatimah said, on November 1, 2008 at 9:43 am

    herry..postan yg interesting bgt..jrg kenal org yg bisa maen ginian..:)*jadi k pengen..

    good job:)

    1st warning; read our rules please

  6. Enggar said, on November 1, 2008 at 10:17 am

    wow
    ulasan yang sangat menarik dan edukatif :)
    benar2 menunjukkan another side of an electrical engineering college student
    ditunggu artikel2 berikutnya, dan tolong share rahasialo dong tam sampe asetlo bisa terus berkembang
    btw, mau dikasih kursus privat her :p

    1st warning; read our rules please

  7. rachma001 said, on November 1, 2008 at 10:29 am

    WOW!!! You’re TRULY an economic student!! You know what? I took the Japanese Business & Economy class, but I dropped it in the 2nd time I got into the class. I TOTALLY didn’t understand what the lecture said. I thought it would be like introduction to economy because all of us are mostly engineering students. But in fact, he used economic terms like almost in every word !!
    Now, I do really think you should be @ that class. Like the 1st time I had homework, I chatted with Yoka using voice call to talk about i-don’t-remember-it-now. And I don’t wanna spend my semester to chatting for doing my homework, so I just dropped it. He2,,, You’re really great, honestly! You’d better be a business man, then !

  8. herrywinandi said, on November 1, 2008 at 10:46 am

    @yoka
    thx for response =)

    @ rachma
    i keep my eyes on japanase yen at this moment ma.. FYI, yen has got really strong in this crisis.. The yen strengthen is such really high volatility and disturb the stabilize of market, till their finance minister said “our government are ready to act if needed”, it means they are ready to interupt the market, they will weaken the yen if needed..

    my suggestion for you all, the best investment at this moment is keep US$ and yen, throw poundsterling and euro away..

  9. herrywinandi said, on November 1, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    @ fatimah & enggar
    thx for response

    @ danang
    it is being a natural law: high risk high return,we cannot expect high return with low risk.. no problem if we choose any high risk investment as long we are able to manage the risk..

  10. EEng said, on November 1, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    comment first, read later :D
    btw, enggar in commentator list above is not me.
    I don’t know why he/she used my name, or maybe another enggar.
    in blogosphere, my name is EEng. And I always write my email and url when I post comments.

  11. herrywinandi said, on November 1, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    @EEng
    she is another enggar

  12. wahidyankf said, on November 1, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    haha…i thought that she is enggar…but she has different email address…^_^

    to all : thanks for coming… ^_^

  13. Fajar A. Prihandoyo said, on November 2, 2008 at 3:02 am

    wew..why only 5-10 % trader could gain money ?
    and others are looser ?

  14. pramasfinnigan said, on November 2, 2008 at 7:37 am

    bo..
    do you really think i’m into this?
    hahaha.. as long as sierra available for me, i’ll always support what you’ve been doin man..
    go forex-in dude!

  15. herrywinandi said, on November 3, 2008 at 11:11 am

    fajar:
    i don’t know why.. that’s the fact..

    prama:
    thx for response

  16. alfathakbar said, on November 4, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    nice..you really have a strong character cup..no wonder you can buy that 9 million htc..haha x)

  17. hamid said, on November 16, 2008 at 11:12 am

    ok
    I’m curious
    what technical analysis u used
    cos
    the Fibonacci number series is doubled and it ’s not fibo fan
    or u use many different time for ur fibo fan and retracement?
    it’s just to many line (looks like fibo fan,but it isn’t, or is it?)
    just curious, u dot have to answer it if u like to keep it secret

  18. herry winandi said, on November 16, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    hamid:

    i use 2 kind of fibos:
    - fibonacci retracement

    let’s say we are in longterm downtrend on stocks, and we know that price doesn’t fall like a brick, it needs a retrace, and this tool helps us to predict how high price will go untill back to it’s downtrend, then we should put sell order on that high.. this way we will minimize our trade risk compare to trade against the main trend.. my advice is, don’t trade against the trend..

    - fibonacci expansion

    continue from above explanation,
    now price has done it’s retrace movement and is going back to it’s down way, this tool helps us to predict how far price will go down from it’s retrace movement..

    i do use many different timeframe in using tools..

    about the fibo number series, i don’t know how it represent on other trading platform, but it must be the same way because every platform refer to a fixed-formula in using fibo number to build their fibo tools..


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